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Do you believe in parallel worlds?
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Replies: 13Last Post July 25 1:40pm by sami sam
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Do you believe that there are parallel worlds where everything that exists is the same as in this one?

The theory most people have heard of, is that for every tiny little decision we make, another world is created where that decision was made differently, or where an event didn't happen (or happened differently). This would mean there would be an endless number of universes, and when our world ends, another one might continue elsewhere. (Which is a nice thought.)

I can't see how this could be true, but then I can't see why not either... I'm the sort of person who must see something to believe it, so until we rip a hole in this world and see into an alternate one, I'm not believing anything.

I've always wondered about dimensions and parallel worlds, but what brought it back to mind was Doctor Who on Saturday. If you like the topic of dimensions and parallel worlds I recommend Doctor Who, even if it is a little childish.  


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According to the book "Understanding the Tenth Dimension" discusses the idea of there being more than 3-4 dimensions.  I have not yet bought it, but I plan to as soon as I can.  That might be a book you're interested in.

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I don't really agree with this thought.  As you've said, I can't really see how it's true, and unless I witness it, (or am shown scientific proof), then I won't easily believe it.  I can't see why a decision would create an alternate form of living.

I do however think that there's a possibillity that there is a world that coincides with ours.  Essentially, I think it's possible that are beings that are at a different level.  The best why I can describe it is by Paper Mario, if anyone knows the concept.  In 2D, you can't view the 3D world.  In a sense, we view things in 3D, is it possible that there are those in a higher world that can view us, but not the other way around...?  I dunno, seems unlikely, but it's interesting to think of.


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I always liked to visualize this whole scenario as follows:

Imagine a decision with only two choices. Up until that decision was made, the past was but a single line, the line of exactly how things happened. Upon making that decision, the line splits in to two, one for one choice and one for another.

If the above decision had 10 options instead, the line would branch in to ten new pieces.

Of course, any given situation has more than two choices, it has nearly infinite choices. So, instead of branching off in to two parts, the line branches in to infinite parts.

Now instead of thinking of a single decision, think of all of the universe, condensed in to this line. At any given moment in time, there are infinite possibilities for how all things can occur. These are the infinite branches on the line.

However, because this is not a once-off thing, and every second of every hour of every day for all eternity is presented with this same set of infinite possibilities for how things will unfold, the line continues to branch.

Each branch of the line, in turn, branches off in to an infinite number of additional possibilities, and each branch of that line does the same.

To factor in 'time', the present is the point at which the decision is made. All possible branches of the line are made nonexistent save one, which is 'reality'. This is the series of events which has unfolded for the current universe/dimension. As time flows on, this continues to happen, with branches of these POSSIBLE futures being condensed into one solid line representing the series of events which DID happen.


I should make a movie of his sometime, it really would make more sense with diagrams and shit.


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I believe in parallel universes. I believe they're inevitable.

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Quote: from Bacon at 12:32 am on July 11, 2008

I believe in parallel universes. I believe they're inevitable.

Why exactly do you believe that?

[note: I am a quasi-supporter of the "brane" theory, so I'm not putting you down] Simply want to know why you think parallel universes are inevitable

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The idea of having an evil twin is too profound for my hopelessly incompetent mind. . .

Well . . I do believe that the theory of having different outcomes being plausible, but in fact, isn't there only a single reality at one time? All possible branches only remain possibilties, but the actual outcome is the single line, of what actually occured, not just via possible branches, because every other branch did not occur.

But then again, I've enough trouble trying to contain the complexities of a single realm . . I've little worry on another parallax lest I fall into insanity. . .

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Quote: from Event Horizon at 10:22 am on July 12, 2008

Quote: from Bacon at 12:32 am on July 11, 2008

I believe in parallel universes. I believe they're inevitable.
 

Why exactly do you believe that?  

[note: I am a quasi-supporter of the "brane" theory, so I'm not putting you down] Simply want to know why you think parallel universes are inevitable


I believe producing a hole in the fabric of space-time creates an opening into another Universe. I believe in the multiverse model where each Universe is connected tightly to one another. Because of this, I believe alternate versions of Earth etc. are inevitable.  

I believe black holes are 'gateways' into an alternate Universe, even if they do chew anything and everything up and convert it to a singular massy point. Perhaps on the other end, the matter is unraveled, potentially from a reversal of time.
This is in accordance with the theories of "White holes", pretty much the opposite of the black hole. Where time and matter is spewed out of the event horizon. I believe that when black holes form, they also form a white hole in a neighboring universe. One sucks matter in, the other sucks it out. In addition, there are white holes in our Universe constantly spewing out new matter - an explanation of the abundance of this "dark" matter (not necessarily unique matter) in our universe.

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Bacon, I was reading this article in the paper version of sciam, and I thought you would be interested. I'm not done reading it yet, but it contains a lot of insight into the nature of black holes.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=quantum-black-holes

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I don't believe in the concept of parallel universes because it just seems too messy - yes, it is a very stupid reason. Why should the idea of parallel universes be based on our conscious decisions alone? In the scheme of things, are human choices significant enough to warrant a new universe each time more than one variable has been presented? That the creation of a parallel universe is dependent on choices alone implies a sort of cosmic sense of awareness - how does the universe know when to diverge into a parallel path and when not to? To me, the only way for such a theory to be consistent is if a new universe were to be created at each and every possible turn, right down to a subatomic level. This, surely, is not viable. Millions of universes would exist and they would be much the same, save for the change in activity of one electron or so.

BUT! I just thought I'd say that I love Doctor Who! Rose + The Doctor! Swoon!

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Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 4:12 am on July 11, 2008

I don't really agree with this thought.  As you've said, I can't really see how it's true, and unless I witness it, (or am shown scientific proof), then I won't easily believe it.  I can't see why a decision would create an alternate form of living.

I do however think that there's a possibillity that there is a world that coincides with ours.  Essentially, I think it's possible that are beings that are at a different level.  The best why I can describe it is by Paper Mario, if anyone knows the concept.  In 2D, you can't view the 3D world.  In a sense, we view things in 3D, is it possible that there are those in a higher world that can view us, but not the other way around...?  I dunno, seems unlikely, but it's interesting to think of.


I love Paper Mario. Graustein introduced me to that concept.

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Not in the manner you speak of. That is, I don't feel that it's my own decisions which cause it to split. I feel it's just... probability and chance. In the micro universe. Every instance of uncertaincy causing a split in reality. Of course, an almost infinite number of such cases is occuring in any given moment of time so that's a hell of a lot of chances. I just feel that I'm totally predictable, just beyond the scope of anything we could possibly hope to comprehend.

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I used to think about this all the time, I'd nearly get into a car accident and I'd imagine another me in parallel universe actually getting into a car accident, I'd go rock climbing with no restraints and imagine another me falling.

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i think they definitely could exist but there isnt a way to tell so its not just something i think one can prove... its sort of like believing in a religion, or believing in say spirits how do you honesty prove it....

but i think they could very well exist yes

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